Drugs

[']

Where do I start...

So what's everyones opinion here on drugs? do you have experience with it? can positive results come out of certain drugs & vice versa? this thread will elaborate from all sorts of substances from LSD to Crack. I'll be looking at this from a neutral point of view until there's a decent amount of posts.

For those that don't know, drugs are catergorized in 2 catergories, Soft drugs & Hard drugs. Some drugs that sit in the hard drug category are: Alcohol, Cocaine, Morphine, Heroin, Amphetamines (Speed, Meth, etc) Soft drugs consists of:Marijuana, LSD, MDMA, Psilocybin Mushrooms, DMT, etc.

This discussion can clear up alot false accusations about drugs so please refrain from posting shit like "My mom says weed is bad so I hate everyone that smokes weed or is associated with people that smoke weed!!"

Research has also said that Alcohol is far worse than Marijuana and other substances for those that don't know, I guess that's why Alcohol is classified as a hard drug.

Fire away.

[Rockstarr]

Alcohol is one drug I've had much of. I've gone out and partied, and let me tell you, it's fun at the time, but it's not good. I like drinking in moderation now. If you drink to get drunk, you do stupid things you'd never think of doing when sober. And you tend to regret a lot. So, alcohol is a huge problem in society today. I know from experience that if you're not in a controlled environment, shit can happen, and you're regretting it in the morning. For instance, I've tried weed, and it was when I was drunk. I swore to myself I'd never try it, and I never would, if I hadn't gotten drunk, and my friend offered it to me. Alcohol impairs your judgment and everything. Yeah, it can be fun to get a little tipsy, but it's best to be in a controlled environment or with a few friends. If you're going to drink, don't party. Trust me, it's fun, but you can and will, if you do it a lot, regret things. And weed, it gives you the lightheadedness, and makes you feel all relaxed, but it also impairs judgment, and you do stupid shit if not in a controlled environment. Not to mention it makes you hungry as ever. So, from my experience, and the people I know who have done the drugs you listed and then some, I hate drugs in general, minus the occasional alcohol here and there. I've known people to die from bad batches of them, and I know one guy who had a bad batch of meth and he literally is brain dead now. The light's on in the house but no one is home. It's terrible.

[Cirno]

I have been given two drugs as medication for extreme social anxiety. First one was Abilify wich they stopped because it made my eyes go upward and neck twist in very strange ways. The second one was Leponex wich they also stopped because it changed my blood count. Leponex was also a pain because when I was taking it I had to go to a laboratory two times every week to give blood samples. Because of these expirences I really dislike everything that messes with my brain. Infact I find it strange that alcohol isn't illegal. 【・ヘ・?】

[Hardcaw]

I believe we should have the right to put whatever we want into our own bodies.

[JD.]

Alcohol isn't an excuse for trying drugs, i've been absolute off my head and been asked to take drugs but i've still never touched them. I drink alcohol and party, but not every weekend now, used to though and it was all good. Start playing football again and it's a different story. Would much rather have a good fitness level etc than be able to take in masses of alcohol. Don't care for people who do harder drugs though nothing good comes from them.

[eatpooz]

Alcohol is one drug I've had much of. I've gone out and partied, and let me tell you, it's fun at the time, but it's not good. I like drinking in moderation now. If you drink to get drunk, you do stupid things you'd never think of doing when sober. And you tend to regret a lot. So, alcohol is a huge problem in society today. I know from experience that if you're not in a controlled environment, shit can happen, and you're regretting it in the morning. For instance, I've tried weed, and it was when I was drunk. I swore to myself I'd never try it, and I never would, if I hadn't gotten drunk, and my friend offered it to me. Alcohol impairs your judgment and everything. Yeah, it can be fun to get a little tipsy, but it's best to be in a controlled environment or with a few friends. If you're going to drink, don't party. Trust me, it's fun, but you can and will, if you do it a lot, regret things. And weed, it gives you the lightheadedness, and makes you feel all relaxed, but it also impairs judgment, and you do stupid shit if not in a controlled environment. Not to mention it makes you hungry as ever. So, from my experience, and the people I know who have done the drugs you listed and then some, I hate drugs in general, minus the occasional alcohol here and there. I've known people to die from bad batches of them, and I know one guy who had a bad batch of meth and he literally is brain dead now. The light's on in the house but no one is home. It's terrible.[/b]

<_< smh at you calling yourself Rockstarr

I grew up in a not so nice area so I been surrounded by drugs my whole life, if you got a good head on your shoulders then weed and alcohol are harmless. Other drugs are a no go zone for me. Any drug that can cause you to overdose and die or is extremely addictive, is stupid.

[Gumballer]

Weed isn't so bad as some people say, but if you're allergic to dust and have bad lungs like me, I suggest you better stay off it xD it creates hart-deseases and such. 1 joint is equal in harm to 20 cigarrettes...

[Rockstarr]

Alcohol isn't an excuse for trying drugs, i've been absolute off my head and been asked to take drugs but i've still never touched them.[/b]

I swore I'd never try it, but your judgment gets impaired. Trust me, I'm not saying it's all the alcohol's fault, because, subconsciously, I had to have wanted to try or I would've said no, but when you've had one full bottle of Captain Morgan, half a bottle of Malibu, 6 shots of Patron, and 3 beers, you're, umm, f**ked up. Yeah, I used to drink a crap load, but I realized that there are more cons than pros to it. So, I only do it on rare occasion in small quantities with my closest friend(s) or my mom even lets me on occasion.




<_< smh at you calling yourself Rockstarr

I grew up in a not so nice area so I been surrounded by drugs my whole life, if you got a good head on your shoulders then weed and alcohol are harmless. Other drugs are a no go zone for me. Any drug that can cause you to overdose and die or is extremely addictive, is stupid.[/b]

Smh?

Actually, if I wanted to be a "real rockstar," then I'd probably be sleeping with women every night and doing things like cocaine. Haha. But no, my name is derived from the fact I wear sunglasses all the time, blah blah, I've played instruments, but never did the whole band thing because I don't have time, and the fact I drink Rockstar energy drink all the time. It's just a name people called me for some reason, but they added a second r. Beats me, but I like it. Haha.

[']

If you drink over your limit of course your judgement will be distorted. What you said you drank up there was beast style Rockstarr.

I believe we should have the right to put whatever we want into our own bodies.[/b]

I concur.

Infact I find it strange that alcohol isn't illegal. 【・ヘ・?】[/b]

True. I find it stupid how Alcohol is socially accepted while being a hard drug, and yet soft drugs like marijuana, lsd, shrooms are looked down upon because they're illegal. I don't stand by hard drugs but soft drugs is a different story.

[Hobbs]

1 joint is equal in harm to 20 cigarrettes...[/b]
i hope you mean for weak lunged people not everyone?
and i agree that weed isnt that bad-its the only drug i'll touch, not even alcohol for me. what i find ironic is that i found this topic... 28 mins before i have to take a state req drug test, but is ok cause it keeps me outta court and jail :D

[Knowledge]

Yeah sure drinking is fun. But sometimes you have to hold yourself so you wont pass the linit that you wouldnt be able to control your actions. People need to learn how to control themselves and know when to stop but to still have a good time.

And 1 joint is neccessarily 20 ciggarettes. I dont know where you got that from.

[vViZ]

drugs and alchol may give u a good feelin g but its not worth the suffrage later in life.

[']

1 joint is equal in harm to 20 cigarrettes...[/b]

....secondary resource isn't always dependable. that sounds ridiculous and blown out of proportion.

drugs and alchol may give u a good feelin g but its not worth the suffrage later in life.[/b]

then you should stop eating spicy food too to avoid kidney stones and stay off the computer to avoid carpal tunnel syndrome. humans are built to fall apart overtime so either way we're all gonna suffer by everything we do, whether it be drinking/smoking or simply eating meat and vegetables from a grocery store.

[Hobbs]

drugs and alchol may give u a good feelin g but its not worth the suffrage later in life.[/b]
also noted you only speak of drugs and alcohol and not cigarettes or gambling or death in the family etc

[Rockstarr]

If you drink over your limit of course your judgement will be distorted. What you said you drank up there was beast style Rockstarr.

True. I find it stupid how Alcohol is socially accepted while being a hard drug, and yet soft drugs like marijuana, lsd, shrooms are looked down upon because they're illegal. I don't stand by hard drugs but soft drugs is a different story.[/b]

Haha, might be another way how I got my name. o.O

Yeah, but the thing is, the U.S. at least tried the prohibition thing. It didn't work, there were still speak-easies, and tons of other things like underground bars. So, that's out of the question for the U.S., although I'm sure almost every country that drinks a lot would react the same to a prohibition of alcohol. It's just one thing that tons of the people will drink or "use" if you will, but will flip out if you take it away.

[Hobbs]

the laws against marijuana will never last. they've been repealed before they will again and stay that way eventually.
the arresting officer even agreed and told us to wait ti then XD

[orang90]

dont drink and drive...
smoke and fly!!!
WOOT!!

[Thrasher]

Okay Drugs are bad when your using too much that's something everybody should know by now Alcohol is bad when using too much so it is with pod and every other drugs but some drugs are causing permanent damage and some aren't. Pod and Alcohol are causing damage that can be "healed" by time and aren't that uber bad to use so if you smoke a joint every month and your drinking a few beers weekly that's all okay with me.

But some of my friends are now getting more into the Coke and Speed and Xtc, these drugs are bad after using them only once. I am also not completely clean i've used Xtc also twice more then a year ago. But they start to use it monthly/weekly atleast more and more often and that's really bad imo. So yeah HardDrugs are a definitely NO for me and i will neither use them again (Maybe 1 time coke just to experience it but apart from that NEVER)

And about marijuana being legal i don't really care if it's legal or not i've been to many countries where it wasn't legal and they smoke just as much or even more then here in the Netherlands where it's legal so yeah i would suggest to legalise it everywhere :).

[Rockstarr]

I've been to Jamaica where it's "illegal," but my mom's boyfriend at the time bought some "ganja" off of the security guard at the hotel. And the people next to their room bought 2lbs of "ganja" for $80. No joke.

[']

So the past few days I saw some shit that really got my mind working.

People were smoking SALVIA without even hesitating once they heard it was LEGAL.

I'm sorry but what the fuck. I have never tried Salvia but from what I hear this shit is a trip and can be compared to psychedelics. So the mass of ignorance takes it just because it's legal? if it was any other illegal substance like LSD or Psilocybin they would push that shit away immediately without thought.

Salvia should fit under the illegal status, either that or LSD, Psilocybin & MDMA should be legal thanks to the propoganda bullshit.

Man, people to need to do their own research instead of taking in what government has to say as 100% truth. I've encountered at least 2 ignorant minds this week where I had to educate them about the medicinal & spiritual use of drugs...funniest thing was he said "but it's illegal, that means it's bad!"
what, so Alcohol isn't bad? that shit is considered a hard drug and harms you physically too, the only reason you think it's ok is because it's socially accepted.

Society has demonized the power of psychedelics, the same way they have demonized urban black males.

[Peryton]

Well only one I`m "abusing" is alcohol.I don't consider it as a drug.I have never tried weed though I did smoke cigarettes for a while but quit after I watched a movie about it.

[Kirarose]

In my opinion most drugs aren't all that bad, I to have grown up in an area where
drugs are passed around and almost everyone you know is on something.
Drugs CAN become a problem if you are so addicted to them that you'd do anything for
them. I believe that alcohol and marijuana and some pills like pain pills can be okay its just when and where you do them. I drink like a fish, on occasion but always around people I trust to keep me out of trouble. I like to smoke weed if the time is right, ie. off work, my daughter is somewhere
safe, and I don't have any important things to do. I like pain pills, but If I don't have em its cool. One thing I will absolutely not do is crack. I have seen what it does to people and I have also had a knife put to my throat and been threatened with my life because I wouldn't do it. Then a little while later I found a crack pipe hidden in some of my mothers things, this bothered me to no end because of what happened to me when I wouldn't try it. So in conclusion if you are going to do anything, be responsible, there is a right time and place for everything.

[Alphabet.]

This is how i think of it as, god must have put marijuana plant's on this earth for a reason, they didn't just show up out of the blue. It just so happen's when you crush it, roll it up into a joint or a blunt ( Or smoke it out of a bong or bowl ) You get a magical feeling. I smoke weed almost every weekend, i do not find it bad to be honest, because it grow's natrually on this earth, however i would never do any other type of drug ( Anything that companies / people fuck with ).

[Asuto]

never done drugs and never will. (i do drink alcohol though)

[Hardcaw]

To be honest I can see myself trying any drug offered to me if it is in the right setting. I believe in experiencing different things and not holding back in life.

[JD.]

To be honest I can see myself trying any drug offered to me if it is in the right setting. I believe in experiencing different things and not holding back in life.[/b]

Someone comes up to you with a needle filled with anything and says, go on shoot that up in you it's great. You would do it ?
Mug. That is all (Y)

[']

never done drugs and never will. (i do drink alcohol though)[/b]

LOL ok? you've already done a hard drug by drinking alcohol, sorry.

I believe in experiencing different things and not holding back in life.[/b]

well said.

[Hardcaw]

To be honest I can see myself trying any drug offered to me if it is in the right setting. I believe in experiencing different things and not holding back in life.[/b]

Someone comes up to you with a needle filled with anything and says, go on shoot that up in you it's great. You would do it ?[/b]

Note the boldness. It would have to be someone I trust who got it off of someone they trust and I have to be in a safe environment.

[status.]

Tbh guys, I think that a member of society should be able to put whatever they want into their body. To be even more honest, I really don't care that much. If you are stupid enough to deliberately hurt yourself, then you need some help.

I know I will never do drugs, for that simple reason. Think about taking a bit of poison every time you do some stuff, whatever it may be. Eventually, your body will have enough, and sadly it will give up.

[']

Tbh guys, I think that a member of society should be able to put whatever they want into their body. To be even more honest, I really don't care that much. If you are stupid enough to deliberately hurt yourself, then you need some help.

I know I will never do drugs, for that simple reason. Think about taking a bit of poison every time you do some stuff, whatever it may be. Eventually, your body will have enough, and sadly it will give up.[/b]

I could be taking in poison when I buy fruits, vegetables, & meat from a grocery store

I could be taking in poison when i'm eating from a fast food resturant.

I could be taking in poison by simply drinking from a plastic water bottle (cancer related,according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison by eating instant noodles (cancer related, according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison from barbequed meat (cancer related, according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison by drinking diet drinks & eating peanut butter (cancer related, do the research)

YOUR typical bacon, ham, & eggs breakfast can be fucking poisonous to you and can lead to cancer.

I'm sure mister status. that you have taken some of these foods into your system without knowing that they might be dangerous to you.

As humans, our bodies are created to break, and everything we do each day will still give us the same result at the end of our days.

Also, I'm sure you are not aware of this but the creator of LSD, Albert Hofmann lived to the age of 102 and i'm sure he has taken in LSD more than 1500 times, this poison should have killed him way before age 102.

Also, Mister status. think about the dangers everytime you walk across the street, or step into an automobile. I guess the only way to be safe is to stay inside and possibly hang out on the computer.. aw crap, there is the chance of obtaining carpal tunnel syndrome.

[JD.]

You can't compare the long term effects of say heroin, to a slice of bacon, can you now chillmaxin?

[']

Negatory. I was specifically speaking on behalf of soft drugs. Hard drugs such as Heroin is a different story and I do not stand by it, although I have heard at one point in history, certain hard drugs was once praised and was thought to be a blessing from god. (Unfortunently I do not remember the specific hard drugs at the moment, i'll try finding it later)

[Hardcaw]

By that logic people in serious pain shouldn't be taking morphine because it is killing them.

[']

What is the difference between heroin and ordinary medical morphine?

"Morphine" as it is commonly referred to, is morphine sulfate. Heroin is diacetyl morphine. That is, heroin is simply morphine with an acetyl molecule attached.

In terms of effects, they are exactly the same -- and medically interchangeable -- except for dosage. In fact, they are both converted to the same form of morphine when they get into the body.

The only significant difference between them is that the acetyl molecule allows heroin to cross the blood-brain barrier more quickly than ordinary morphine. The result is that, in terms of dosage, heroin is about three times stronger. That is, one grain of heroin equals about three grains of morphine. Otherwise, they are identical and there is no significant difference that would justify heroin being completely illegal (Schedule I) while morphine is used routinely in medicine. (Schedule II) They can be used interchangeably as long as medical personnel follow standard practices of medical care.

At this point a sensible person might ask why heroin is illegal while morphine is not. The answer is the same answer about the origins of almost any of our drug laws -- plain old legislative ignorance of the subject.[/b]

Interesting... I was ignorant to think hard drugs did not have its medincal purposes.

[status.]

I could be taking in poison when I buy fruits, vegetables, & meat from a grocery store

I could be taking in poison when i'm eating from a fast food resturant.

I could be taking in poison by simply drinking from a plastic water bottle (cancer related,according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison by eating instant noodles (cancer related, according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison from barbequed meat (cancer related, according to epidemiologists))

I could be taking in poison by drinking diet drinks & eating peanut butter (cancer related, do the research)

YOUR typical bacon, ham, & eggs breakfast can be fucking poisonous to you and can lead to cancer.

I'm sure mister status. that you have taken some of these foods into your system without knowing that they might be dangerous to you.

As humans, our bodies are created to break, and everything we do each day will still give us the same result at the end of our days.

Also, I'm sure you are not aware of this but the creator of LSD, Albert Hofmann lived to the age of 102 and i'm sure he has taken in LSD more than 1500 times, this poison should have killed him way before age 102.

Also, Mister status. think about the dangers everytime you walk across the street, or step into an automobile. I guess the only way to be safe is to stay inside and possibly hang out on the computer.. aw crap, there is the chance of obtaining carpal tunnel syndrome.[/b]

Yes, and those are dangers that most of us must live by. But what I am trying to get to is why increase the amount of danger in your life. And well about the LSD creator, I have no comment. ^_^

[Sean]

DRUGS ARE FOR MUGS, STICK TO HUGS!!!!

[Ekim_Dude]

Drugs are bad. I don't do them, never will.

[Rockstarr]

So the past few days I saw some shit that really got my mind working.

People were smoking SALVIA without even hesitating once they heard it was LEGAL.

I'm sorry but what the fuck. I have never tried Salvia but from what I hear this shit is a trip and can be compared to psychedelics. So the mass of ignorance takes it just because it's legal? if it was any other illegal substance like LSD or Psilocybin they would push that shit away immediately without thought.

Salvia should fit under the illegal status, either that or LSD, Psilocybin & MDMA should be legal thanks to the propoganda bullshit.

Man, people to need to do their own research instead of taking in what government has to say as 100% truth. I've encountered at least 2 ignorant minds this week where I had to educate them about the medicinal & spiritual use of drugs...funniest thing was he said "but it's illegal, that means it's bad!"
what, so Alcohol isn't bad? that shit is considered a hard drug and harms you physically too, the only reason you think it's ok is because it's socially accepted.

Society has demonized the power of psychedelics, the same way they have demonized urban black males.[/b]


Yeah, my cousin and a couple friends tried that a few times. It messed him up, but man was it hilarious on my part. I was the DD of it all. Hah.

[']

Drugs are bad. I don't do them, never will.[/b]

All drugs? be specific. Funny how these "drugs" are bad, and yet a select few is used for MEDICINAL PURPOSES.

Go hit up your local library and come back when you're well educated on the subject.

I used a drug today to treat my cold. It's called Robitussin.

[Rockstarr]

Yeah, we all use drugs time to time, but they are usually the beneficial ones that help us get over sicknesses and such.

[CyberChaos]

People who do drugs like that are wack!!

[Rockstarr]

Like the ones I stated or the ones like cocaine, ecstasy, etc?

[JD.]

DRUGS ARE FOR MUGS, STICK TO HUGS!!!![/b]

Says you haha (¬¬)

[fratey]

To be honest, I'd rather smoke weed (which is quite a big taboo here in sweden) than drink alcohol, ever.

[Tsuna]

I think any drug taken for any reason other than medicinal use leads down a bad road. I still don't get why people do it even if they know the repercussions of using them.

[Sean]

Says you haha (¬¬)[/b]

Only take them wen there needed, i dont class Cannabis as a drug.. i smoke it like fags everyday as for ecstasy i have took that loads of times aswell wen at raves and clubs!

[S3EK]

all my friends have been smoking weed for the past 1 1/2 - 2 years almost every single day and now they are completely addicted to the "high" since weed is not addictive. It pretty sad actually and I've noticed I am starting to lean away from them since they influence the shit out of anyone that hangs out with them. So what I say is live your life how ever you want just don't influence others on it.

[bmx]

I think any drug taken for any reason other than medicinal use leads down a bad road. I still don't get why people do it even if they know the repercussions of using them.[/b]
I am with ya brotha