Conceptual Art

[JD.]

Well, judging by past topics and a few flame wars i have seen sparked thorughout the forum, I came to the conclusion that conceptual art being used in the digital world is something a lot of people have varied opinions about. It is an on-going phase where somewhat more traditional art is introduced into the digital world.

If you don't know what conceptual art is visit the following link before getting involved with the debate, otherwise your comment will most likely have no stability and you will probably be picked apart by people who know what they are talking about. LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conceptual_art)
Basically it is art that is based more on a concept or idea, more than fancy effects and pretty colours.
What i want to know is your opinion on the matter, so lets start of with the following;

Does conceptual art have a place within the digital world, and should it be rated as highly as other art styles?

[myaim]

I think conceptual art should be rated as highly as any other style, because although theres a fine line between shit and concept it does take just as much ability to make a concept piece as it does to vector or throw a bunch of c4ds on a stock. Of course many people will say you can make a make a concept piece in 20 minutes no problem, yeah some pieces can, but so can throwing a shit load of c4ds on a canvas and calling it abstract. Many people can whore this style because its easy but concept takes ideas and concepts to express a deeper meaning in the piece, so each and every style has its pros and cons, no style is perfect!. Most concept pieces actually inspire people who vector, use c4ds, pentool, etc. So, yes imo it should be rated as highly as c4d, or vector, or pentool.

In the end it comes down to opinion, flat out opinion so stop complaining about it because its your opinion vrs theirs.

CAN I MAKE IT PLAIN ENOUGH?

[JD.]

In the end it comes down to opinion, flat out opinion so stop complaining about it because its your opinion vrs theirs.

CAN I MAKE IT PLAIN ENOUGH?[/b]

Was that aimed at me?

[myaim]

It was aimed at everyone who is friken fighting over this JUST STOP!

[JD.]

It was aimed at everyone who is friken fighting over this JUST STOP![/b]

This is a debating forum, for debates, not fights. So I expect that everyone who partakes in this topic will know that, and that they will debate without any unnecessary conflict. Yes is it is based on opinion but that isn’t valid grounds to not have a debate about it, throughout debates people voice their opinions and then back them up with facts, that is what I hope to see here. You have shown your thoughts so thanks, now I’ll just wait for more replies and see what other people think. There is certainly no need to stop having discussions about popular topics, that is what this forums for.

[myaim]

oh yeah well im dating back to the rant forum also :P

[fratey]

Conceptual art can be truly interesting if it's avant-garde or out-of-the-box, however, people using conceptual art as some define it is simply retarded.

[Aloe]

I think if conceptual art is well executed it should be rated higher then design of the same level without any meaning. Like my candytree piece is imo crap becuase its some random shapes.. personally I like pieces more with a meaning to it, ofcourse if it is well executed.

Also abstracts can do have a meaning. If you look at the professionals they always have a concept or something in it.. (then I mean the people who get money for their design not the poeple which are pro ranked)..

My 2 cents

[Revolution 9]

I think we should just rank everyone novice, it would be much easier that way.

Overall it comes down to personal opinion, some people like some styles, others don't
its the way it is

[Thrasher]

you can always make up a story behind a certain piece look at the older traditional art pieces i've been to the Rijks Museum a few months ago (again) because there was an interesting thing going on and i've seen some explanations of pieces where i thought about like WTH how the fuck can people come up with all that stuff a lot of it is true though but i think that digital art is still far from that :)actually in most pieces is the meaning behind it created after the piece is finished something where i am definitely not a big fan of tbh but even i do so sometimes :)

But yeah it all comes down to opinion ;)

[JD.]

Conceptual art can be truly interesting if it's avant-garde or out-of-the-box, however, people using conceptual art as some define it is simply retarded.[/b]

My thoughts exactly, some people make a tag and then label it conceptual, when in actual fact it has no concept.

[Mehhht]

I think concept is good, and another thing to take into account with tag making, but you cannot just forget about all the other aspects and want it to be rated highly. It's like saying "My colors are good, so it doesn't matter that it has no depth and random composition."

If all you want to do is convey meaning, why not just write?

[Dain]

I think concept is good, and another thing to take into account with tag making, but you cannot just forget about all the other aspects and want it to be rated highly. It's like saying "My colors are good, so it doesn't matter that it has no depth and random composition."[/b]

i agree with you there.

some people say their work has a concept, true it might but if the composition/quality of the piece sucks well then the art piece is going to suck even if it has a really good concept.

[hynfaeries0]

Well most of the most interesting and though provoking art are conceptual. and I think conceptual are should be rated the highest. I mean you can have traditional are that expresses concepts or you can have abstract concepts.

But I think the most successful art pieces are conceptual or else it's just something that sits pretty.

[Sam]

Agreed^^

The most successful pieces are conceptual.

[Psychotic]

Conceptual art has just as much merit on a digital medium as it does on any other medium. It may not take as much mastery in some cases, but takes a lot more thought and planning. If anything, it takes more effort to create good conceptual artwork than the fancy shmance eye candy BS that's everywhere.

Conceptual artwork is more enduring than abstract expression because abstract artwork is just novelty. It gets old.

[Sam]

Yeh, because its like a story behind every tag/piece of art you do, now if i had time, i would definetly doo that, but unfortunately i do not have the time to create stories along with the tags.

[M4x]

ya i love conceptual art and think it deserves just as much recognition as digital.

this is such a cool piece:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f4/Family-in-a-box-Minneapolis.jpg

[Aloe]

you guys are forgetting that all posters you see hanging everywhere has a concept.. becuase they are communicating with you, the poster wants you to do certain things.. if you have a piece thats just nice but doesnt communicate it doesnt have a concept.. So you could say that most things are conceptual as most pieces has been thought of very well.

[Sam]

Well said, and m4x that is a nice piece. :)