-GoD & ThE BiBLe-

[tampazxfinest]

(As Carnal Suggested I Am Going To Make A "God & Bible" Thread)

Do You Believe In God As The Way Of Life Or On The Other Hand Do You Think It Is Such Bullsh*t ? Going With That, Do You Believe That The Bible Is Telling The Truth About God(The Holy Spirit) & Jesus(The Savior) ?

[+mw.Sourcery]

Dont get me wrong. Its not as though i was raised by devil worshippers or anything. My entire family, including myself were all raised Assemly Of God. Which is one of the most common sects in Christianity and in the south next to the Baptists. When i was older, into my late teens i started having and interest in other religions and cultures so i read alot about them. Reason i say i dont believe in God but also say im not an Atheist is because there is still a small part deep down where i kinda still hold onto the belief of a higher power. NOT just the Christian God, but a belief that there could possibly be many Gods since there are so many religions out there who have different Gods.

But i refuse, downright refuse to believe anything in the bible. If you have'nt seen it yet i recommend everyone to watch Penn & Teller's Bullshit. Its a show they have on Showtime and look for the Bible episode. Basically they say that its a bunch of crap. Its been translated, translated, and translated so many times that who knows what is the truth anymore. There are even Chapters in the bible that were omitted because it painted a negative image to its religion.

And not only that but Christianity says we need to read the bible and practice it. Not bits and pieces right? Well if i practice what the bible says then i can kill any man that has long hair. Because the bible says men who have long hair should be put to death. When i have a daughter and she pisses me off I can sell her unruly ass into salvery. Why? The bible said i could.

Just because something is written in the bible does'nt make it right right? So why persecute homosexuals when the ONLY thing that has deemed it wrong IS the bible.

[tampazxfinest]

Wow Carnal, You Touched Me http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wub.gif

I Might Go Around Selling Drugs For Clothes & Shoes Now http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[murch]

I completely completely agree with you, my god you said everythign i wanted to say but that i didnt want to say cuz the huge posts, thanks for posting that im serious, i feel the exact same way as you do,

i have a story that pisses me off about christians, i went to youth group a few weeks ago and i stopped going because of this, the guy is about to end and he goes (this is what he said almost exactly!)

i have a little story to tell you guys (they think a holy war is about to go on against christianity btw http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif), a few days ago congress opened up with a muslim prayer, for some reason they decided to open differently then they have since congress began with a traditional christian prayer, now i dont know what the arabs call there priest guys, but how dare they compare jesus to muhammad, or ala, how dare they even put those two on the same plain as jesus, even state there names in a prayer is just out right rediculous, and your damned if you do.


now is that not F****** rediculous, it wasnt exactly like that but it was dam close, and when he said muhammad and ala, he said it all smart ass like, hes a F'ing deuschebag.

thats why i dont like christianity is because of their errogance, not because of the washdown version of the bible, but because there way is the only way.

[+mw.Sourcery]

Blaze, if you're gonna sell it. Atleast get cash for it http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[tampazxfinest]

Yea I Know, Im Serious

[Thrasher]

I don't believe in god since the bible is just a good story but nothing more. I do respect all the people that actually do believe.

And i also understand why loads of people believe, since it's way easier to believe that there is something "more" than just that there is nothing and also to the fact of going to heaven. I don't believe so i think i am going nowhere but i would love to believe that i would go to a paradise or something http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[tampazxfinest]

Agreed

[feonix]

I myself believe in God. Not particulary the bible god.

I think as long as you believe something thats what matter.

[murch]

thats exactly how i feel feonix, exact same way........

[neil_akoga]

i don't believe in god and i've always felt really sorry for non-christians in america, i remember going to the reading festival in the uk (a rock festival) and watching greg proops (a canadian comedian) and he summed it up for me when he said the puritans were psycho christians with guns that england sent to america, thank god that christianity is not such a big deal in the uk...lol...(notice the irony)

[the silent x]

i believe that there is only one god (not necessarily the christian God) because if you look at history, Greeks, Romans, hindu, muslims and the like, they all have one head god and then another god who is not as powerful, but still up there:
christianity - Father, Holy Spirit, and lucipher (god's right hand man before he was cast out of heaven. almost like Hades in greek and roman. also like Loki in Norse, i don't know who the hindu gods are so i can't really compare, i just know they have two head gods and a hell god.) muslims worship the same God as christians, just instead of through isaac lineage, they go through ishmail the housewokers son when Abraham's wife couldn't have children. i am christian so i think that the one god at the top is God the Father, but everyone can believe whatever they wqant to, i don't do the whole shove-it-down-your-throat thing.

[.havoc]

im a christian and i believe in one god

not crazy about evolution tho

[feonix]

im a christian and i believe in one god

not crazy about evolution tho[/b]

Whats to say you cant belive both.

Gods day might be millions of years for us. It could of very well happened that way.

Have you ever been working on a piece of art and you plan for it to go one way and you start drawing something. And when youre done its something comptely different. It might have only taken you 5 mins.
But if you got someone with less skill in drawing/ps/whatever It may take them 5 days.

@the silent x
Loki is not a god he even though he is often included with them
"In mythological terms, Loki is not a god, as he has no cult or followers (no evidence has ever been found or even referenced such), rather he is a mythological or mythical being"
-WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki)

As far as the comic version of Loki
Confusion often comes in as Loki was rasied beside Thor as a brother by the king Odin when he was actually the son of an enemy he killed in honorable combat.

I know quite abit about Loki as it is my nickname.

[the silent x]

Whats to say you cant belive both.

Gods day might be millions of years for us. It could of very well happened that way.

Have you ever been working on a piece of art and you plan for it to go one way and you start drawing something. And when youre done its something comptely different. It might have only taken you 5 mins.
But if you got someone with less skill in drawing/ps/whatever It may take them 5 days.

@the silent x
Loki is not a god he even though he is often included with them
"In mythological terms, Loki is not a god, as he has no cult or followers (no evidence has ever been found or even referenced such), rather he is a mythological or mythical being"
-WIKI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loki)

As far as the comic version of Loki
Confusion often comes in as Loki was rasied beside Thor as a brother by the king Odin when he was actually the son of an enemy he killed in honorable combat.

I know quite abit about Loki as it is my nickname.[/b]

ok, thnks for the info, i haven't really gone into the norse gods, just glanced briefly over what they did. again thanx for the update

changing subject

i believe in both God and some evolutionary terms. i believe that God made the heaven adn earth in six days, i also believe that after that, survival of the fittest started coming into play. as pieces of DNA mutated, animals eventually got to where they are today. look at sharks/gators/crocs compared to almost any other animal.

[+mw.Sourcery]

i believe that God made the heaven adn earth in six days[/b]


you gotta be shittin me?

[murch]

lol you gotta be shittin me too doug...........jeeeez, but hey thats what your opinions about, i think religion is just a way of comforting people so they think theyll go somewhere when they die, nothing more.

but i do believe in god.

[feonix]

Tad confused what youre trying to say silent.
Anyway I believe evolution & god.

I think that god is an artist like us and while he was making everything stuff got changed and eleted and started and stopped thrown away left incomplete.

We see it as evolution though. God sees it as just work that started one way and finished another.

And if you want proof of A god then this think about this

If you ask a physicist what energy is they will tell you
"It was here from the beginning and will be to the end. energy is part of everything. It cant be created or destroyed."

If you ask a theologin who/what god is they will tell you
"God is the beginning and the end. God is part of everything. God cant be created or destroyed."

[Ralic]

It may sound like a crock of ****
but I think people believe in god, so as they are not scared as to whats going to happen to them after they pass away.
Maybe i'm wrong, its just what i believe. I have no believe in religion, and i believe it is a pile of ****
Thats my opinion, and i respect other peoples, but, we all believe what we believe...

[murch]

well thats good that you believe that, like you said everyone has there own beliefs, hell for all we know we could be a computer simulation, we could be the sims xD

[tampazxfinest]

Wow, People Really Have Absolutelt C-R-A-Z-I Opinions http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif

[feonix]

well thats good that you believe that, like you said everyone has there own beliefs, hell for all we know we could be a computer simulation, we could be the sims xD[/b]


That would be totally dope till we couldnt go to the potty cause they wouldt let us or threw us in a fire things like that.

[hynfaeries0]

I completely completely agree with you, my god you said everythign i wanted to say but that i didnt want to say cuz the huge posts, thanks for posting that im serious, i feel the exact same way as you do,

i have a story that pisses me off about christians, i went to youth group a few weeks ago and i stopped going because of this, the guy is about to end and he goes (this is what he said almost exactly!)

i have a little story to tell you guys (they think a holy war is about to go on against christianity btw http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/tongue.gif), a few days ago congress opened up with a muslim prayer, for some reason they decided to open differently then they have since congress began with a traditional christian prayer, now i dont know what the arabs call there priest guys, but how dare they compare jesus to muhammad, or ala, how dare they even put those two on the same plain as jesus, even state there names in a prayer is just out right rediculous, and your damned if you do.
now is that not F****** rediculous, it wasnt exactly like that but it was dam close, and when he said muhammad and ala, he said it all smart ass like, hes a F'ing deuschebag.

thats why i dont like christianity is because of their errogance, not because of the washdown version of the bible, but because there way is the only way.[/b]

Murch, I heard about that incident. It's really quite sad to see people like that. It is not like other religions don't have people that think their religion is the best or w/e, but Christianity seems to have the most people thinking that Christianity all the way or die kind of thing.

Anyways, I am personally not really religious, partially because I disagree with what the Bible says a lot.

I also find it ironic out Christians persecuted blacks in the name of Jesus and God, when Jesus what black himself.....

[murch]

haha noone knows what jesus looked like, but its very possbile he was black http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif

[hynfaeries0]

haha noone knows what jesus looked like, but its very possbile he was black http://www.gfxjunk.com/board/style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/b]

yes very likely considering he was Gailic or Gailean, Located near the Mediterranean. Dark skinned.

[murch]

who even knows he actually existed?

[hynfaeries0]

who even knows he actually existed?[/b]

He probably did. He is confirmed as prophets in both the Koran and the Torah.

[feonix]

who even knows he actually existed?[/b]


He probably did. He is confirmed as prophets in both the Koran and the Torah.[/b]

@faeries

Agreed theres multiple text that refrence him in several religions as well as other government documents of the time.

And it is most likley that is was dark skinned concidering the area of the world hes said to be from. Not that it matters anyway were all human lol.

I think as soon as we find out theres other life that we can see... us Earth people will be like oh shizz and stop all this silly bickering.

thats why i dont like christianity is because of their errogance, not because of the washdown version of the bible, but because there way is the only way.[/b]

@murch

This is a common tactic for fanatics of all religions and social groups. Looking at the Nazi he took a good plan of unifying the deoutchland area but then he took it too far and got all crazy dictator.
Middle Age kings refrenced scriptures from the bible to say why they should be in power.
Muslims refrence the koran to explain their terrorism.
In china the govt became religion and crushed any other way.

So please dont point the finger and say oooh bad Christians you mess up the bible. Dont blame the many for the crimes of the few.

[Ralic]

Bickering, its all funny :) hehe
I dont believe in any religion. I believe in nothing...

[SantaClaws]

I respect people's belief and the people who believe in a religion

but I have no respect for religion itself, I could make it a really long and boring monologue but i'll just put it that Religion in general has caused A LOT more blood shed than the self comfort some people find in it


ooh I just thought of a good quote and I have to share it

'I don't believe in hell, I believe in escaping it'

translation: Instead of living for live and saving your 'soul' for the future, Live your life and make things the best they can be

[Thrasher]

I respect people's belief and the people who believe in a religion

but I have no respect for religion itself, I could make it a really long and boring monologue but i'll just put it that Religion in general has caused A LOT more blood shed than the self comfort some people find in it


ooh I just thought of a good quote and I have to share it

'I don't believe in hell, I believe in escaping it'

translation: Instead of living for live and saving your 'soul' for the future, Live your life and make things the best they can be[/b]

I agree with you :) also atleast 50% of all the wars especially in the past are because of different believings :(

[Fluxcore]

I am a true follower of God. It's your choice whether you want to believe in God or not. But if you deny God on Earth, God will deny you in heaven.

[Flow]

I am a true follower of God. It's your choice whether you want to believe in God or not. But if you deny God on Earth, God will deny you in heaven.[/b]
ya,i agree with this

[Ralic]

I dont believe in god so I dont agree ;)

I respect people's belief and the people who believe in a religion

but I have no respect for religion itself, I could make it a really long and boring monologue but i'll just put it that Religion in general has caused A LOT more blood shed than the self comfort some people find in it
ooh I just thought of a good quote and I have to share it

'I don't believe in hell, I believe in escaping it'

translation: Instead of living for live and saving your 'soul' for the future, Live your life and make things the best they can be[/b]

Dude, you said it all.
Summed up all my words in a nice short quote :)

In this country, Northern Ireland, there is so much violence over religion.
This country is mostly protestant, so am i, so if a catholic walks down the street, they get the **** kicked out of them.

There are paramilitary organizations that are there basically to kill Catholics. Its pathetic.

I cant be arsed going into detail...
All you need to know is. Its a daily occurrence over here to see somebody killed over religion.

[.GJ]

Yep, Ireland is totally fcked up. If you are a certain religion, you are not aloud to support a certain football team. Forexample Celtic and rangers and either catholic or protestant. It's really pathetic i think. Half of the people dont even believe in God. A catholic couldnt wlk down a protestant street without being petrel bombed or seriously kick the s**t out of!
Im glad to say i live in england :D

[RaD]

Im sorry to interrupt this discussion but i have to say this and i want all of you to please read what im going to say now.

There has been a big discussion about this on another forum i'm on, it turned out that this discussion doesn't lead anywhere, because someone won't just step away from their beliefs...

It's not that a forum can change your feeling about something that has been told to you for all your life by everyone around you.

I mean, would you, if your parent and everyone around you told you the easter bunny existed, believe someone on a forum, someone you don't see at all, someone you don't even know. Would you believe him when he said it doesn't exist?

So im sorry but this discussion wont lead anywhere. :P

[+mw.Sourcery]

We know it wont lead anywhere. Thats what debating is. 2 sides expressing an opinion. There is no win or loose.

[RaD]

Oh yes i know that, Im one of the best debaters in school... (ego plz xD) but this debate is a debate that quickly goes out of control and people start to throw chairs and stuff... :P

Nah, what im saying is that a debate has to have an end and this debate will never have an end because we will never be able to prove it.

In a debate there are 2 sides, for and against, both got their arguments, all arguments have some kind of logic and proof behind them. In this case there is no proof, not for and not against, so it's a bit pointless to be debating about it...

[+mw.Sourcery]

Really? are you a MASTER deBATER in school?

and there is logic and proof to debating about religion. Its usually the churchy side who likes to keep the argument going because they refuse to open their eyes and see the logic and the proof.

[RaD]

Well not the master debater........ But they say im quite good... :P

Yup, it's the (ignorant) religious people that come with lame arguments like "But i believe in it" and "But my brother once had this vision!" and "The bible says..."

All this can be explained in scientific ways, but because they are so ignorant they won't listen to them, 'because it's their belief' and as i said before, you can't just change someones mind over something that they have been hearing from people around them for all their lives.

The reason why I am not (really) religious is because my parents didn't force me to believe. When i was little we never prayed before going to bed and before dinner. We went to church every once in a while, but i think that was to please my grandmother, she is raised catholic and she doesn't like that we almost never go to church anymore, because her parents raised her like that. In her time it was normal that someone would be raised like that.

I am glad my parents didn't do this, because now I have reasonable sense about things around me, if it wasn't for this, I would probably not have such high grades in Biology... :)

[Derv]

hehe science ftw just got a 48/50 in a physics exam :D
go ego!

[murch]

well i agree that science has an explenation for most things, but there are some things that cannot be explained, when you get into higher science classes then biology........you may hear of some things called dark matter, and that around 75 percent of the universe isnt actually there, meaning its not matter, even some of the most prestigious scientists in the world agree that there is something behind everything, because they have no idea what is running it. they think its the "master equation" but many believe that there is something or someone running it.

theres many beliefs in what runs the universe, some believe in the scientific theory, some believe in god and others believe in nothing, theres even theories that were just a computer simulation, sorta like the video game sims.........is that stupid? we all have our opinions and thats just how it is, i'm actually really tired of people who claim there way is the only way, both sides (christians and scientific's) believe there way is the only way and the other one is stupid, just one question..........how the fuck do you know what we are? did science come to you in a dream? if you really think about it science is a religion, its governed by books that people have discovered and passed from generation to generation, the bible is like a science book, but in just a different form, books were passed from generation to generation and made into a single book, just like your highly scientific is the right way biology book RaD...................


personally i have no idea what waits for me when im dead, whether it's pearly gates or a 6 foot below grave.........i dont really care once im dead im dead anyways, i believe in both religion and science, i to grew up in a non-religious home and was never forced to choose a religion, thats the way i like it aswell, im more open to others views, but im also happy im not a science freak and think that religious people are just trying to comfort themselves trying to think theyll go somewhere after they die........

anyways im done typing now, hope anyone read all that crap......

[Fluxcore]

I read it o_O

It touched me.

[murch]

omg im so happy...............how did it touch you? did it feel good? like, in the pants?

[Fluxcore]

No o_O It was weird how I always hate n00bs who don't believe in God.

[murch]

o ok i got ya, so you believe in god? whats your opinion on this.


once again difuzed, your avatar is mindblowing

[Fluxcore]

I think whoever is too foolish to listen to people, they shall be taught by God. (not something pleasant if you're not a follower)

If you deny God on earth, he will deny you in heaven.

[+mw.Sourcery]

yes and we're lucky enough that their was a loophole written into the bible where if we repent our sins we'll be granted access because he is forgiving. Whew, guess us sinners lucked out again!

[Hootnnuts]

im really confused about this subject. i mean, i think i beleive in god but i do not beleive that he created the world and creates babys. 2 people create babys not god.

i dunno im just really confused about this... i dont go to church. i used to but my family and just stopped going.

so yea... i dunno...

[Cranos]

I don't believe in god. Science explains a lot more and you have proof of it.

[langsta]

well, i personally beileve in God, as im a protestant, but, im not too hardcore, i mean, i still do bad stuff, eg. swear, etc.

im getting better though lol, and i think it is rite, the bible, cuz, it is proven to be the most accurate religion and the 'kindest'...im not gonna say how, cuz that is gonna bring other religions into the light, and i dont wanna offend others...

[.Scream]

My belief is the world was created by the big bang. Not a god. It makes me wonder, if god did make the Earth and all of us, Who made the sun?

[muse]

My belief is the world was created by the big bang. Not a god. It makes me wonder, if god did make the Earth and all of us, Who made the sun?[/b]

the bible says that god did


but yeah, i think religion is for weak people who need someone/thing to beleive in. Just beleive in yourself =]